Saturday, July 07, 2007

Think before you blabber!

When antiwar groups are asked for the reasons why the US should leave Iraq right now, the typical answers I usually hear are:

"Bush lied!"
"You're F**king Nazi's!"
"War for peace is like f**king for virginity!"
"911 is an inside job!"

Okay, how can you explain to me this image to the right? How do you expect that when the Coalition forces leave Iraq, peace is just going to show up suddenly?

I haven't gotten an answer to that question yet, so I started thinking on my own and drawing comparisons. The most similar situations were Afghanistan after the Russians left, Somalia after the UN left, and Lebanon after the Marines left. In all the cases above, a brutal civil war started, and ended up with extremist groups in power, oppressing their people, armed, and causing more conflicts in neighboring countries.

The question in my head morphs magically into a different question? Do they really want peace? Or do they want something else? I guess the simplest answer would be that they want to see the US humiliated by defeat maybe because they are closet communists? I did say maybe...

I was just reading the BBC, about the latest bombing, who in their full mind would think that this will stop once the troops are out? The troops aren't the ones doing this, and the troops aren't being attacked in attacks like this. So why don't you want the troops to get those people who do these attacks out of Iraq so they can leave Iraq to the Iraqi's? Isn't that what peace at its simplest form is all about? The Iraqis taking over a secure and a stable democracy able to defend itself and hold its own?

One other point that is quite interesting, is that those same people that are asking for the US to get out of Iraq, are asking the US to intervene in Darfur. So, not only that they are asking for military action, they are contradicting that whole "war for peace doesn't work" crap... Aren't those people going to go on peace rallies if the US goes into Darfur and it becomes another hot bed for Al Qaeda operations against the United States? And how come those individuals who are always rallying for peace have never thought of enlisting in order to help their country win a war in order to establish peace?!! Now do they really want peace? Or just attention?!!

I think the next time I see one of those peace signs in a blog, I am just going to browse to something more useful, maybe myspace or something...


At Friday, July 20, 2007 at 3:14:00 PM EDT , Blogger Cerebralwaste said...


Great post about the peaceniks. Anyone with half a brai can realize the absolute worst thing that could be done is for the US to leave Iraq right now.

Sadly there are lots of people with less than half a brain. And many of them serve in Congress.


At Monday, September 17, 2007 at 7:36:00 PM EDT , Blogger bk said...

Well lets see. In how many ways shall I dissect your shallow little question about why the US should pull out.

How about this: we havent done a lick of good over there in five years, so why waste more time.

We havent made things any better for the population, so could things really get much worse?

Just who are we fighting over there? An enemy that was never there before we went in? Great reason to stay and fight on.

Please get a clue. Imperialism will never succeed. Nor should it.

At Tuesday, September 18, 2007 at 2:16:00 AM EDT , Blogger The Zoal said...

Burger King,

How about removing a dictator and establishing a foundation for a Democratic country in the Middle East of all places?

Yes, things can get much worse. Check Afghanistan civil war.

An Enemy that was not there? True to an extent, but how about groups that are ran by the Syrians and the Iranians. They have been there before the Saddam regime collapsed, as well as Ansar AL Islam, ever heard of them? Now that the enemy is there, AKA the Islamic State of Iraq, should the US leave and have them run the show? Your call.. lol

Imperialism is what England did in India and Africa, and what France did in Algeria. The US came as liberators and for more of the last 5 years focused on having a light footprint in Iraq, by calling the Iraqi's to stand up and take over, but it never happened. So until the Iraqi's stand up like they did in Anbar, the moral thing for the US to do is stay and try and provide security for the Iraqis until they stand up on their own. But I guess you wouldn't know a moral thing even if it hit you in the face.


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